March 31, 2004

Two-day broadcast, Mar 31 and Apr 1

Watch online at www.LifeToday.org:
Day 1: James & Betty w Ambassador Alan Keyes #1
Day 2: James & Betty w Ambassador Alan Keyes #2

JAMES ROBISON, HOST: We welcome you to Life Today. I'm James Robison. Betty and I are thrilled to have Ambassador Alan Keyes with us. In my opinion, he is one of the truly great Americans, he's one of the greatest statesmen in the world, and one of the most important figures today.

I'm anxious to hear what's on his heart because I, frankly, believe it's what's on the heart of God. I think it should be on all of our hearts, and I think if we fail to hear the kind of inside inspiration, instruction and information, that comes from someone like this--I believe sent by God to us in such a time as this--I think the future's bleak. However, if we'll hear what he's saying, I believe the future is bright.

Would you welcome Ambassador Alan Keyes back to Life Today.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: We're glad to have you here, Ambassador.

ALAN KEYES: Glad to be here. Thank you.

J. ROBISON: I know that one of the critical issues, from your viewpoint, that you've dealt with trying to remind us as Americans, the importance of protecting life, innocent life. We were horrified at the disregard of all life, all nationalities, all ages, all families, total innocence in 9/11 in that horrific attack--but at the same time, without flinching, we will, during that same time period, even while in the aftermath, we're still terminating the most innocent of innocence in the wombs of mothers, unborn children. I believe this is a critical issue that still faces America today.

KEYES: Well, I think it's more critical than ever, and we ought to realize it, because I believe that it's obviously no accident that on September 11th we were struck by this terrible blow that has cost us now so much in order to respond to it, cost us so many lives that day, took down these great symbols of our economic and military power--what was the source of that evil?

Well, the source of that evil was a willingness on the part of the terrorists to disregard the claims of innocent human life. It was not just an act of war. It was worse, in some sense, even than something like Pearl Harbor, where they were attacking our military out of the blue. These folks targeted people who were non-combatants going about their daily affairs, slaughtered them indiscriminately--men, women, children, it didn't matter to them.

And I think that that disregard of innocent life, we can pretend if we like that we were first experiencing and seeing it on September 11th, the truth is, what we saw on September 11th was the outward result of it. We saw the smoking ruins, we felt the grief of the families who were torn apart by the loss of their loved ones, and the whole nation mourned. We were confronted with the palpable consequences that occur when you disregard the claims of innocent human life.

But that, obviously, isn't the first time we've encountered it, because, sadly, we are aborting as many children every day as there were people who died on September 11th.

J. ROBISON: That's so sad.

KEYES: And that is a sad commentary, but I also think it's God's way of confronting us with the truth. In some sense, the consequences of that evil blow against America held a mirror up to us and said, "Look in this. It's done in a sterile abortuary, but the truth is, you're being destroyed by this evil. You're being taken down by this evil."

And as I often tell audiences, I think that we have been engaged in, necessarily, a war against terrorism since that terrible attack, but we've got to realize at some level in the truest moral and spiritual sense, the evil that we fight is but the shadow of the evil that we do--and that the true war is not just a war where we have to go over to Baghdad and Afghanistan and go after the terrorists who are trying to kill Americans.

Yes, we have to do that, but the real war is the war in our own hearts, the war to come to this conflict with clean hands and to be able to ask God to bless America and lift up His hedge of protection around America--we can't do that now because He's not going to protect evil, and He's not going to have us standing, because He can't be like us, He can't say one thing on Sunday and contradict Himself on Friday.

So, if we are praying for protection against those who would destroy innocent human life, then when God hears that, He's gotta look at Osama bin Laden, but He's also going to look at us, and He's going to say, "Your Supreme Court and all those people who are killing those millions of My innocent, innocent children--who are not only, like other human beings, deserving in a general way of your respect, but here in double trust, the call of humanity and the special call that they are the gift of life that I have placed in the womb of your society, they are your future that I am giving to you, and they are the consequence of My glorious grant of participation in the creation and perpetuation of life, which I have let you be part of. And so, in a double trust you violate that gift which I have given you."

I think we have to confront this truth, and realize that we're not going to really be able to win this war against terror until we have defeated the principle of evil that animates terror, and that principle resides, unhappily, still in the heart of America, itself.

BETTY ROBISON, CO-HOST: And one thing that I have not been able to understand about this is that we can so readily take those innocent lives, but at the same time turn our compassion toward an animal, and reach out and want to do everything we can to save that animal--which I love animals; we have a pet, but it's twisted.

KEYES: Yes, but the scripture does tell us, doesn't it, that in this time when the heart is twisted, and we've turned away from God, and confusion darkens our mind, we will worship the creature instead of the Creator.

And so, our will becomes the be-all and end-all, and we start to look at the animals and the creatures and the environment, and this and that, and we are willing to submit ourselves to a discipline meant to protect that, but unwilling to submit ourselves to the discipline of the Lord.

J. ROBISON: When we exalt self above everything else, including God, then we move into such depravity that, in order that our comfort not be interfered with, even if we are practicing license with immoral activity, and find ourselves inconvenienced with a pregnancy, then we terminate it because it has disrupted our comfort. We have made an idol too often out of our way of life, rather than being grateful and protecting a life itself.

KEYES: And I think that, sadly, that understanding that you've articulated that we are willing to make this sacrifice of innocent life for the sake of our comfort and convenience, basically, our self-gratification, I think, sadly, that that is the way in which this whole area of human sexual relations is being redefined.

Having, over the course of the last several decades, taken it entirely away from God's intended purpose of procreation and family--that is the true foundation of the love that is being expressed between man and woman, but if you take it out of that God-ordained context of procreation, in which we are essentially becoming part of His great work, then it becomes simply a matter of selfish gratification.

And, sadly, even as it leads to things like abortion, so we are seeing it lead now to an assault on marriage and family, itself--where people are saying, well, and folks think mistakenly, that this issue of what's happening with marriage and the court decision in Massachusetts, and the push for homosexual marriage, they think it's about "are you for or against homosexuality?"

What we need to realize is that the underlying truth is that what we're standing for is an understanding of human sexuality in the proper context of God's ordained purpose of procreation. That's what we're for. And what is happening over here in the homosexuality is just an representative of this tendency, is the tendency to take that and say, "No, it's just about self-gratification. It's just about the pleasure the two parties take from it. It's just about the satisfaction they get from it. It's just about the love they share with one another, and what they do for one another." You see?

And what we're forgetting is that the reason that there is a shadow over homosexuality in the scripture is not because God hates homosexuals, it's because God understands that if you go down that road, you have destroyed the true meaning of human sexuality, you have taken that sacred purpose and cast it aside, and you have placed that sacred human activity in a place that then leads to, what? That leads to abuse, that leads to the degradation of persons, that leads to abortion, that leads to an understanding that the only basis for a relationship is gratification--and you know the sad thing? That destroys families.

That's why I listen to all these discussions. I was on O'Reilly the other day, and he was asking me about this very subject, and I'm trying to make it clear to him that the real problem is that by redefining marriage as if it's about personal rights, we are forgetting that as an institution, marriage wasn't ordained about personal rights and personal self-gratification. As an institution, marriage is actually about responsibility and obligation and the willingness, in love, to accept the life-long commitment of that responsibility and obligation. When you have taken it and redefined it in terms of self-gratification, what you've actually done is destroyed it--and that is what is going on here.

So, that sense that everything should be sacrificed to our gratification is destroying the life of innocent children in the womb, and it's also now responsible for a direct assault on the very foundation of our social life, which is the family. You don't get much more destructive than that.

J. ROBISON: And it's so sad that we discuss such nonsensical ideas as though it really is a serious issue. It is serious, but it is absolutely ridiculous that we've reached this point, professing ourselves to be wise, we become the biggest fools on this earth--and then to equate it to racial discriminatory acts is horrible beyond words.

KEYES: Think about this, though. Over many years I have tried to get people to see the real implications of this comparison with race, because if you understand them, you will see the next stage in our degradation.

When you say that homosexuality is like race, well, the last time I looked, as I often tell audiences, when I got up this morning, I was a black guy. I go to bed tonight, and I will be a black guy. And in between, you could try to talk me out of it, and I know that we used to be called people of the colored persuasion, but persuasion has nothing to do with it, see? It really doesn't, because I might come to the deep conviction someday that I'm not a black guy, but guess what? When I look in the mirror, boom, it's still the case.

All of that is meant to suggest that, in point of fact, this is something over which we have no control. The behavior of my skin cells is not something I can consciously alter, and therefore, it's not something I can be held morally responsible for. The problem with bigotry isn't that you saw this or that or the other thing, and shunned people and this or that. Because the problem with bigotry is that you were treating people in a contemptuous, bad fashion, acting as if something they had no moral responsibility for could lead you to treat them as if they were in fact morally defective. You see what I'm saying?

J. ROBISON: Um, hmm.

KEYES: And that's the problem, but if you compare homosexuality with race, what are you saying? Well, you're saying that that behavior or condition which corresponds to homosexuality is beyond the control of the individual. Think about that. See, because, anything that we can't control, any action that we can't control, we can no longer be held morally responsible for. We do understand this, right?

So, are we going to say that for sexual purposes human beings can't be held morally responsible, because sex is just something beyond our control, we gotta do it? If we say that, then here's what we really need to think about. We also need then to think about this: what is the difference, from the point of view of moral responsibility and our treatment of them, between adults and children?

Well, the difference is that when we talk about consenting adults and all, we're talking about people who we say can make a rational, moral, responsible decision. They can make a choice to do or refrain from doing something, and they can be held responsible for that choice. Those who are just helplessly subject to their passions are like children. That's why children need parents, because they can get carried away by their desire for that piece of candy or that toy, and they don't know that it's time to go to bed or that they should eat instead of going on to play with that game. They just get all caught up in their passions and their desires and their need to have this or that, and they can't control themselves, right?

So the difference between an adult and child is exactly that ability, to have some discipline, have some control, instead of just giving in to your impulses and passions, you control them.

If, for sexual purposes, we in fact can't control our passions, then guess what? For sexual purposes, all people are children. For sexual purposes, there is no difference in principle, if you accept this idea, between adults and children. And that means, what? That means that everything we have done to protect the innocence of our children, to protect them from sexual exploitation, on the grounds that they cannot be considered responsible for the choices they make, all of that is meaningless.

And so, the next inevitable stage of this--and it's coming. Believe me, it's coming, and it's practically coming. You realize that already, already, a paper has been produced in which they have dared to suggest that relations between adults and children, sexual relations, can be healthy for children. Did you read about this?

J. ROBISON: Sure.

B. ROBISON: Uh, huh.

KEYES: This is inevitably the next stage of this, and if we embrace this homosexual argument that, "Well, gotta do it; it's like race," and so forth, what we have done is we have given up the understanding of human sexuality that allows for moral responsibility and that therefore allows us to distinguish between adults and children for sexual purposes.

Can't we see where we're headed? This isn't just a slippery slope. We go off of this, it's like leaping off of a cliff into the abyss. There's nothing to stop us from hitting bottom.

J. ROBISON: That's right. Nothing but a return to God, Ambassador.

KEYES: Amen.

J. ROBISON: And a return to His truth. Absolute principles. Absolute word of God. He is right, and when we defy Him, and we're actually right now leaving Him out of our lives, and now we have judges taking him out, we're violating the principles upon which the nation was established.

Do you appreciate the way this man articulates truth in God, and speaks it?

[applause]

J. ROBISON: You know, if you want to hear wisdom and pure common sense, you just heard a whole truckload of it, delivered explicitly to you and to this nation. This man is an ambassador of truth, for Christ--and I thank God for you.

Would you tomorrow, would you stay on the program tomorrow, and let's talk about where judges are reinterpreting the law--they're actually writing, rewriting the law, which is simply not their responsibility, not their privilege. It's a violation. And let's talk about what you perceive must happen, not only if we're going to have sanity, but if we're going to see security and freedom preserved in this great country. Would talk about that tomorrow?

Would you like to hear Ambassador address that thoroughly?

[applause]

J. ROBISON: We'll talk about it tomorrow, and some of the things you've got on the agenda that all of our viewers need to pray about.

I want to show you--Ambassador, you will appreciate this.

[Segment on orphans in need in Mongolia. For more information, see www.LifeToday.org]

J. ROBISON: Betty and I just, from the bottom of our heart, we say thank you for helping. Please do all that you can. Ambassador Keyes is going to be back with us tomorrow. If people wanted to contact you, what's the website? If they wanted to know what you're doing, what they can get from you that would be meaningful?

KEYES: They can go onto the web. RenewAmerica.us is the website. One word, RenewAmerica.us. There's contact information there, also they will have other links to some of the things that I'm involved with that have to do with the work of trying to rein in the judges, and other work that I'm doing.

J. ROBISON: Well, it's very worthy of you contacting, and it's worthy of your support. Again, we appreciate Alan Keyes being here.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: Thank you. We're going to talk with you again tomorrow. Serious issues, all of them are. Don't miss the program tomorrow. Tell everyone you know, tune in Life Today tomorrow, because they'll get life.

[Next day's broadcast]

April 1, 2004

B. ROBISON: Thank you for joining us on Life Today. I'm Betty Robison, and this is James.

J. ROBISON: What do you think about a man like Alan Keyes, who is our guest today, and the way he communicates? You know, I've been told I'm a pretty good communicator, and I can see the effect of what I do, I understand that. But man, I'm going to tell you something, I feel like a pop-gun going off after a cannon when he talks. I mean, it's like launching an Atlas Missile, and me flying a little paper cup. And I mean that. This man has got it, when it comes to communication. He's full of God. Would you welcome back to Life Today Ambassador Alan Keyes.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: I'm thrilled to have you, my brother, and a person I admire. And I tell you what, if I was as smart as you, if I knew as much as you, if I could communicate like you, I think I'd be proud. And you walk in a brokenness and a humility, and I thank God for it, and I just pray He'll continue to bless you. I want to bring up . . .

KEYES: No, no. Wait, wait. Before you go on, I think I deserve a little bit of equal time now, because I have got to say, leave aside the hyperbole about speech and all, because you are a wonderful, powerful communicator, but I think that what is truly most wonderful, and what I wish I had was one half of your heart of compassion and love for the people of this world and the needs that they have.

I mean, words are wonderful, but what really transforms life and converts the heart, and what did it in the case of Christ, was life itself--lived in the true Spirit of God and with true reverence for the Father, reaching out to take care of the poor and the hungry, not just in a spirit of carnal interest, but in a spirit of dedication to God's truth and sharing His mercy with the world. And that is your heart, and that is the truth of your life, and that is the true meaning, I believe, of Christian Evangelical fervor. It is not just to spread words, but to spread the Word by living it. And that's what you do.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: Thank you. Boy, with all my heart I want that, and I'm honored that you would even say that.

Justin, come up here. Is this Justin? Come up here, Justin. You and I met this little guy when we walked in. Come up here and crawl up in my lap for just a second. This little guy, he met me when I came in the door.

KEYES: Hi, Justin. We did, we said hello.

J. ROBISON: And how old are you, Justin?

JUSTIN: Four.

J. ROBISON: You're four, and you saw me on television. Was I helping to take care of children and feed some children? And what did you want to do?

JUSTIN: Give them some money.

J. ROBISON: Give them some money, so we can help take care of them.

Look up here at this camera so they can see your pretty eyes. Well, I love you, and I'm proud of you. And can't you see, Ambassador Keyes, a young ambassador for Christ in the making?

KEYES: I sure can. Yes, indeed.

J. ROBISON: Can't you see that love? And you know that that is life worth living, not only that we feed a hungry child that may have thought no one noticed, but that a little boy here in our blessed country would say, "I want to do the same thing." And that really blesses me. Thank you, Justin. I love you. You're my buddy.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: Ambassador, I want to--I really want to touch on something that I think probably many of us don't understand totally, and that's what happened to the supreme court justice in Alabama, Judge Moore, when he was--you know, I thought he had a beautiful Ten Commandments monument there.

KEYES: Oh, gorgeous.

J. ROBISON: I mean, you know. I understand that he actually had been a judge and had put the Ten Commandments on the wall, and ran for chief justice--or ran for justice. Did he run for chief justice, was that what it is?

KEYES: Yes, he ran for chief justice.

J. ROBISON: And he said that he was going to be sure that he displayed God's word.

KEYES: He had come to prominence, really all over the country, because he had put a carved plaque of the Ten Commandments on the wall in his courtroom, and this same federal judge, Myron Thompson, had ordered him to take it down, and he had refused. And they had gone back and forth, and at the end of the day, it had stayed up there--but he became so well known that when he ran for chief justice, not only did he win, but he also brought along with him state officials, other people on the supreme court. I mean, everybody who was running on the Republican ticket benefited from the fact that he got such overwhelming support from the people of Alabama, and they elected him on the platform of taking the Ten Commandments and he was going to display them. He was known as the "Ten Commandments judge."

J. ROBISON: Not bad!

KEYES: And one of the prerequisites of the--the requisites, rather, the perquisites of the office of the chief justice is that he is the one responsible for the décor in the Supreme Judicial Building in Alabama. And so, he's the one who decides what's going to be there, and what's going to be displayed and so forth, and so everybody knew that he was going to display the Ten Commandments. That's what the people of Alabama wanted. The acknowledgment of God is there in the Alabama state constitution, and so forth.

And a federal judge comes in and says, "No, you must take it out." Somebody brings suit, the ACLU, and these folks, and they say that this is unlawful, and et cetera. And so, the judge, agreeing with them says, "You have to take it out," and again, again, Chief Justice Moore now says no.

We are told the issue is the Ten Commandments. Well, not quite. The reason that the judge ordered it out--and he states this, the judge himself states this in his decision and in the questioning before the decision--that the key issue is, "Does the state have the right to acknowledge God, can the state acknowledge God?" So, the issue in all of this was not just the Ten Commandments. He could have put the Ten Commandments in there, and if he put them along with a lot of secular documents and other things that make it clear that this has nothing to do with God, it's showing no reverence or respect for God, if he had done that, which some people are wont to do and some people around the country are doing, then they would have said, "Fine, that's good."

So, the only way, they claim, that you can have them there, is if you had them there in a spirit of disrespect for God, a spirit of basically denying that God is God. Then it would be OK, but since he insisted on putting them there in a spirit that said, "No, this is an acknowledgment of God, because the Alabama constitution acknowledges God, because the great history of America, our founding documents, acknowledge God, because I as a state official must, according to the will of my people who put me here, acknowledge God," but the issue was, can he.

And when he was removed from the chief justiceship, Bill Pryor, who, by the way, has been nominated by President Bush for a seat on the federal bench--which I will be quite frank about it. Somebody asked me about that, whether I support it, and I had to tell them that it'll be a cold day in another place before I think he ought to get this nomination.

Why? Because he went after this man, claiming that the judge had violated the law, violated ethics and so forth and so on. And the last thing in that so-called trial that he asked Justice Moore was, "Chief Justice, if you are continued in office, will you continue to acknowledge God?" and Chief Justice Moore said yes. And the he asked him again, "You mean, no matter what any other official says, you will continue to acknowledge God?" and the chief justice said yes again. And he finally asked him a third and a fourth time in different ways, "Will you insist, no matter what, on acknowledging God?" and he said, "Yes, I will," and that's when he reaches the conclusion, "OK," and the next day they take him out of office. Why? Because he refused to back down.

Now, some people will say, "Well, Alan, he's wrong because this judge, and that separation of church and state, and he can't do that." Well, actually, actually, if you look at the Constitution, the Constitution of the United States says nothing about separation of church and state.

J. ROBISON: Absolutely not.

KEYES: The First Amendment, which they always cite, the establishment clause, actually says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Now, some of you might say, "Whoa, gosh, it's a long way from Congress to Alabama. How did they get there?" You know, because, Chief Justice Moore's not part of Congress. Not only that, but as chief justice of Alabama, he has no right to make any laws for Congress, either.

But, when you think it through, the real implication of that phrase also, though, is not to prohibit religious establishment. Some people argue that. No. What it says is, "Congress shall make no law respecting," not prohibiting, but respecting, "an establishment of religion." What does that mean? Well, respecting means concerning, on the subject of, with regard to, dealing with. So, it means, "Congress shall make no law that has anything whatsoever to do with religious establishment."

Well, my friends, if it can't address the issue at all, that means it can't say yes to religious establishment, and it also can't say no. It can't interfere with anything that's done on this subject. So, you'll ask me, "OK, Alan, who can address it?" Well, the Constitution's also clear about this in the Tenth Amendment. It says that any power that's not given the United States government by the Constitution, or explicitly prohibited by the U.S. Constitution to the states, is reserved to the states respectively, and to the people.

That means that the power that was explicitly withheld from the federal government, the power to deal with the issue of religious establishment, and remember, that means all these issues that have to do with the relation between church and state, how you acknowledge God, whether you acknowledge God, what can be done, prayer in schools, display of monuments, all the whole range of issues that have to do with that subject, the federal government has no lawful authority to address those issues at all whatsoever.

And so, I ask people who say, "Roy Moore broke the law," I say, "Well, if Congress can make no law, Roy Moore can break no law." And then if they try to tell me, "Well, but that judge [said] he violates the Constitution," I say, "No, it's the judge who's violating the Constitution, it's that judge who is taking . . ."

J. ROBISON: The judge that acted against Moore.

KEYES: Myron Thompson, the judge, the federal judge who is claiming the right to make a judgment about this issue of church and state, when the Constitution explicitly forbids that power to the federal government.

Now, that means, by the way, that, far from Roy Moore being a lawbreaker, in this whole situation in Alabama, Roy Moore was the only person obeying the law, the only person respecting the requirements of the Constitution of the United States, the only person doing what the Fourteenth Amendment requires of state officials, which is that they do not act to infringe the rights, privileges, and immunities of citizens of the United States. Well, one of those privileges and immunities was the right to be free of dictation by the federal government when it comes to matters of religious conscience at the state level. That's the business of the state governments and the people of the states, it is not at all the business of the federal government, and when the federal judges get involved in it, you know what they're doing? They are acting unconstitutionally and unlawfully.

J. ROBISON: Yes, they are.

KEYES: They are violating the supreme law of the land, and it is they who are doing something wrong, not Chief Justice Moore. He was actually doing what the law of this land requires him to do: defend and stand on the right of his state and his people to deal with the issue of church and state and how you acknowledge God, to deal with that issue free of federal domination.

That means that we don't just have to sit there and let these judges take power they don't have under the Constitution. If they've stepped over the boundaries of their actual power, as defined in the Constitution, our representatives in Congress can push them back where they belong. With a simple majority vote in the Congress, they can remove from the jurisdiction of the federal courts all those matters that have to do with these issues of church and state, and which, by the power of the First Amendment, the federal government has been forbidden to address.

And what we need to do is we need to rise up and demand that our representatives take this step, demand that they defend the right of the states and the people of the states to make these decisions free from federal interference, by imposing this restriction on the federal courts.

And by the way, if you impose that restriction, you're not taking anything from them, because to say that you're taking away their jurisdiction, no, that's not what's being done. They never had that jurisdiction in the first place. What you're doing is you're putting them back where they belong. It's like you have found a stolen good in a thief's house, and you're returning it to the proper owner. The stolen good in this case is the right to acknowledge God and to make a decision according to our conscience, through our state institutions and at the state and local level, of how and in what way we will acknowledge the authority of God.

That's our religious right, that is our real religious freedom, that is our real freedom of conscience in this country, and they have stolen it from us, and we must demand that the Congress use its proper constitutional authority to get it back.

J. ROBISON: We appreciate this, I believe, with all my heart.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: Ambassador, if people went on your website, could you direct them along some steps to try to begin to rectify and correct this? What's your website, by the way?

KEYES: Oh yes. The website is RenewAmerica.us, and I'm part of an effort--we're working with Rick Scarborough and Vision America, and they can also go to VisionAmerica.org and his website--and we're working with people on a number of things. First, we've put together a petition that has actually been signed on to by a whole range of moral conservative leaders, including Jim Dobson, and Concerned Women for America, and Gary Bauer and other people.

J. ROBISON: Sandy Rios will be with us next week.

KEYES: And Sandy Rios. All of these folks have joined in a petition that essentially aims at making sure that the right to acknowledge God in and through things like the display of the Ten Commandments will be protected, that the jurisdiction of the courts will be restricted by proper legislation.

There are also pieces of legislation that have now been place on the table in the House and the Senate, very carefully crafted to achieve this purpose--one introduced by Sen. Shelby of Alabama, along with Sen. Brownback of Kansas, the other by Rep. Robert Aderholt of Alabama, and they're gathering cosponsors and these will, I hope and believe, become the vehicles for moving forward with this. But the Congress isn't going to act, though, until they see the will of the people, and that will of the people must be expressed.

J. ROBISON: Um, hmm. Let's get it started.

KEYES: We have been responding, actually, to what people have been doing in different parts of the country, to organize gatherings, rallies, which have as their purpose to educate people who come about this issue, and then to fire them up and give them the information they need to take steps. We're also hoping, and I think it's starting really to fall into place, that on October 15th next fall, we will be able, after having these rallies in cities and counties and localities all over the country, we will be directing people to go back into their communities and churches and organize for a massive march on Washington on October the 15th this fall, the purpose of which will be to reclaim our religious freedom and our right to acknowledge God as a people--and with that in mind, to put pressure on Congress to pass this legislation that is now working its way through Congress.

J. ROBISON: If we don't take some action, then the activists are already taking away the freedoms that are ours, and the very issues that made and will continue to keep America great--or we're in serious trouble, our foundation has eroded. And really, it's not monuments we're talking about, it's the fact that God is God. God is God! It's not a motto, it's reality. Do we believe it's a nation under God, under His watch-care, under His protection, under His guidance, giving out expressions of His love and His compassion? Yes!

Again, do you appreciate Ambassador Alan Keyes? I do. Go to his website.

[applause]

J. ROBISON: Get involved prayerfully in these issues. Pray for people who are willing to make a stand. Understand that you also don't get the truth from so much of the mainstream media--they distort it, they characterize people of character as unsavory, they do everything to undermine what must happen if our nation is going to be restored. So, access that website.

Alan, we're going to show our viewers how we can take children in their arms. This little guy I showed earlier, his love, that's the kind of love God has that He wants to express through you. I want you to see some children right now that need you to take them in your arms. Watch this.

[Segment on children in need]

CHILD: Though my father and mother forsake me, the Lord will receive me. [Psalm 27:10]

J. ROBISON: We're showing little children whose parents were killed in a horrible war in Rwanda, we're showing them God's love, the love of the Father.

B. ROBISON: These precious little babes, you know, they just--what are they going to do if someone doesn't reach out to them and help them? Jesus cared about the little ones. He loved the children, and He loves these children.

VOICE: We have children that have been thrown away by society here, abandoned, and we have seen children that would literally be dead, literally be dead, if God hadn't provided the resources for us to take them in.

J. ROBISON: You just have to believe that God has a future for these kids, and that they're not abandoned, that they're not forgotten. Well, that's what we're believing for these kids here throughout Romania. We want to see their lives turned around completely.

CHILD: For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. [Jeremiah 29:11]

[end segment]

J. ROBISON: I wish I could give every child a home and give them hope. It's not possible to give every child, but we can give some.

Betty, what happens in your heart when see those children that we've held all over the world?

B. ROBISON: I do recognize a lot of the little faces that you just saw. We were there. We saw. We saw the loneliness in their little eyes and wondered who was going to care for them. I can't even imagine that ever being one of our grandchildren, standing outside of a door maybe because the place was too full for them, or even just not knowing what's going to happen to them. As was said there at the close, they deserve a future, they deserve a hope--and we can give that to them. It's not "can we?" we must. We must do something to help these children. They deserve a place that's safe and warm, and people that love them and care for them. I hope you'll help us.

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From the bottom of my heart, Ambassador Alan Keyes, I love you, I thank God for you, and I pray that we will see this nation return to God with our whole heart, because that really is the bottom line issue.

KEYES: That's the bottom line.

J. ROBISON: Again, would you say thank you, everybody, for Keyes?

[applause]

J. ROBISON: Thank you, sir. Keep sharing it. Thank you for sharing with us.